Michelle Malkin » Apocalypse Now: Wisconsin vs. Big Labor; Plus: More out-of-state union recruiting & another teacher speaks up for Walker; police order for AWOL Dems; America agrees: End public union monopoly

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This is a critical moment in the nation’s battle to dig itself out of debt and free itself from the iron grip of public union monopolies. As you know from reading this blog, the Wisconsin showdown has been a long time coming. I remind you that there are many brave workers exposing the corruption and costs of compulsory unionism. Today’s syndicated column gives an overview of the Big Labor battle in Wisconsin — now spreading to Ohio and Indiana, where the DNC/OFA are organizing the community of grievance-mongers kicking and screaming against overdue reforms.

Like someone famous always says: Change is never easy.

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Apocalypse Now: Wisconsin vs. Big Labor
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2011

Welcome to the reckoning. We have met the fiscal apocalypse, and it is smack dab in the middle of the heartland. As Wisconsin goes, so goes the nation. Let us pray it does not go the way of the decrepit welfare states of the European Union.

The lowdown: State government workers in the Badger State pay piddling amounts for generous taxpayer-subsidized health benefits. Faced with a $3.6 billion budget hole and a state constitutional ban on running a deficit, new GOP Gov. Scott Walker wants public unions to pony up a little more. He has proposed raising the public employee share of health insurance premiums from less than 5 percent to 12.4 percent. He is also pushing for state workers to cover half of their pension contributions. To spare taxpayers the soaring costs of Byzantine union-negotiated work rules, he would rein in Big Labor’s collective bargaining power to cover only wages unless approved at the ballot box.

As the free-market MacIver Institute in Wisconsin points out, the benefits concessions Walker is asking public union workers to make would still maintain their health insurance contribution rates at the second-lowest among Midwest states for family coverage. Moreover, a new analysis by benefits think tank HCTrends shows that the new rate “would also be less than the employee contributions required at 85 percent of large Milwaukee_area employers.”

This modest call for shared sacrifice has triggered the wrath of the White House-Big Labor-Michael Moore axis. On Thursday, President Obama lamented the “assault on unions.” AFL-CIO and Service Employees International Union bosses dubbed Walker the “Mubarak of the Midwest” while their minions toted posters of Walker’s face superimposed on Hitler’s. Moore goaded thousands of striking union protesters to “shut down” the “new Cairo” while the state’s Democratic legislators bailed on floor debate over the union reform package.

Education Secretary Arne Duncan spurned the opportunity to condemn thousands of Wisconsin public school teachers for lying about being “sick” and shutting down at least eight school districts across the state to attend capitol protests (many of whom dragged their students on a social justice field trip with them). Instead, Duncan defended teachers for “doing probably the most important work in society.” Only striking government teachers could win federal praise for NOT doing their jobs.

Yes, the so-called progressives truly believe that bringing American union workers into the 21st century in line with the rest of the workforce is tantamount to dictatorship.

Yes, the so-called progressives truly believe that by walking off their jobs and out of their classrooms, they are “putting children first.”

If ever there were proof that public unions no longer work in the public interest, this is it. Big Labor dragoons workers into exclusive representation agreements, forces them to pay compulsory dues that fatten Democratic political coffers and then has the chutzpah to cast itself as an Egyptian-style “freedom” and “human rights” movement.

Meanwhile, union leaders elsewhere are quietly forcing their low-wage members to share the sacrifice in order to preserve teetering health funds. In New York state, Skidmore College campus janitors, dining service workers and other maintenance employees received late notice from the SEIU that 4.15 percent of their gross earnings will now be deducted from their paychecks to cover the cost of the health plan provided through the behemoth 1199 SEIU Greater New York Benefit Fund. (If the name sounds familiar, it’s because this is one of several privileged SEIU affiliates that has received an Obamacare waiver.)

These workers are forced to join the union in order to preserve their jobs, and unlike non-union workers, they are locked into a single health plan. The SEIU has now decreed that they must pay new fees to include spouses on their plans and has hiked employee co-pays for doctor visits and prescription drugs.

What’s necessary for New York union workers is necessary for Wisconsin union workers — and for the rest of the protected union worker class in bankrupt and near-bankrupt states across America. The “persuasion of power” so ruthlessly and recklessly exercised by the SEIU and its thuggish allies must be broken by the moral courage of fiscal discipline. It’s now or never.

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Update: A reader who is a teacher in Minnesota shares his union’s Wisconsin protest recruitment organizing e-mails with directives from the president of the Minnesota AFL-CIO:

I just received a forward from our union president which I have included below that made me sick. This was sent to my school district email and is a perfect example of how the unions manipulate and stronghold educators.

The original email is from Shar Knutson, President of the Minnesota AFL-CIO.


A number of you have asked about additional ways to show solidarity with Wisconsin workers and we want to provide them to you.

Here are some events happening in the next 72 hours in Western Wisconsin and in Madison. We have tried to provide as many details as possible:

Friday, February 18

Rally in Madison

Minnesotans are invited to travel to Madison and rally with workers at the Wisconsin State Capitol at Noon. AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka will be among the speakers at this
rally.

*Please note: You will likely need to park and walk several blocks to and from the Capitol. Here is a general link for driving directions that will lead you close to the Capitol: [ http://act.aflcio.org/salsa/track.jsp?v=2&c=IuCP2rsXge0ipu51yluQlFpfNQ%2F…
]http://bit.ly/eLIAgp

Saturday, February 19

Picket/Visibility

Event in Hudson

We are urging union leaders, staff, members and supporters to show their solidarity with Wisconsin workers at a 10:00 a.m. visibility event on the Carmichael Road bridge over I-94. Please plan on picketing from 10 a.m. until Noon.

A park and ride lot is located near this location. For more information: [http://act.aflcio.org/salsa/track.jsp?v=2&c=f65%2BWBRvaZ09mQgGdETUBpY2%2B…
]http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/travel/parkride/lots/stc5505.htm

Saturday, February 19 and Sunday, February 20

Canvass in Western Wisconsin

The Wisconsin AFL-CIO is organizing in-district canvassing in River Falls, Eau Claire and La Crosse from 9:00-1:00 p.m. Saturday and Noon-5:00 p.m. Sunday. Locations are listed below.

RIVER FALLS: 430 Crescent Street
(private residence)
EAU CLAIRE: Eau Claire Labor
Temple; 2233 Birch Street

LA CROSSE: IAM
District 66; 1307 Market Street

Ongoing advocacy
Continue to send [http://act.aflcio.org/salsa/track.jsp?v=2&c=MH7Ups4yaGai7xBA2QiXGJY2%2BGf…
]emails to your legislators if you live in Wisconsin.

Please call the legislative hotline at 1-877-753-5578 to ask your State Senator to vote NO on any bill that attacks workers and the middle class instead of creating jobs, and NO on any bill that forces cuts that will sink our economy even lower.

Spread the word.

Use Facebook, twitter and good old-fashioned word of mouth to make sure that your friends and neighbors have [ http://act.aflcio.org/salsa/track.jsp?v=2&c=sUQOUB0lt9lyFgrMxibx35Y2%2BGf…]seen the ads and are taking action.

I know that working people will not sit idle while our rights are taken away. We stand united against this legislation with our brothers and sisters across the
border in Wisconsin and across the country.

Sincerely,
Shar
Knutson
President, MN AFL-CIO

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Yesterday, I published a letter of support for GOP Gov. Scott Walker from a public school teacher in Tennessee.

Another teacher e-mailed me her letter of support from California:

Dear Gov. Walker:

I am so sorry you are getting pounded by those teachers, students and Unions. As a teacher in California I got into trouble with the Unions myself when I only asked a simple question.

I repeatedly tell everybody I know that they are crazy to give any more money to education/teachers/teacher’s unions. Here in Los Angeles all we do is throw money at education and here we are at the bottom in the country. We only graduate 40% of our high school students and they can’t even read, do not know history or math, and more importantly cannot do any critical thinking.

What I see in the Los Angeles classrooms is pretty much just ideological brainwashing by a huge majority of their teachers. And yes, teaching their students to protest and to march. In my humble opinion this is child abuse.

Please stand strong and do not let these Union thugs beat you down. So many of us stand behind you.

Sondra Barnes, Van Nuys, CA

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Update: Gov. Walker has issued a police order for the AWOL Dems.

Update: Via Ben Smith, a majority of Americans side with Gov. Walker and even go further in opposing the entire public union racket:

Poll: Public unions a hard sell

A new poll from the Washington-based Clarus Group asked:

Do you think government employees should be represented by labor unions that bargain for higher pay, benefits and pensions… or do you think government employees should not be represented by labor unions?

A full 64% of the respondents said “no.”

That includes 42% of Democrats, and an overwhelming majority of Republicans; only 49% of Democrats think public workers should be in unions at all.

That’s on the fundamental right to organize, before you get to wages and benefits. And that puts Scott Walker in a pretty good political place.

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  1. #101
    On February 18th, 2011 at 4:09 pm, Gorebot said:

    “F’aar their asses!!!!!”

  2. #102
    On February 18th, 2011 at 4:09 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    I endorse the efforts of my friend, ITookTheRedPill, to serve the strong truth as widely as possible, without cream or sweetener.

  3. #103
    On February 18th, 2011 at 4:15 pm, stillontheroad said:

    Ilovemycountry said:
    I just pressed the Trunk Monkey Button..

  4. #104
    On February 18th, 2011 at 4:18 pm, Gorebot said:

    Wisconsin is the Titanic, and these morons are all Captain John Smith.

    “Next stop: Bottom of the North Atlantic!!!”

  5. #105
    On February 18th, 2011 at 4:22 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 18th, 2011 at 3:54 pm, ITookTheRedPill said: On February 18th, 2011 at 1:19 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    Thanks, RedPill. I should have thought of that. Those posts were really really worth reading. In fact, I am going to share them with a couple of my e-mail friends.

  6. #106
    On February 18th, 2011 at 4:24 pm, rotarymunkey said:

    The Dems in the WI Senate have abdicated their positions; change the locks on their office doors, disconnect their taxpayer-funded cell phones, cancel their state-issued debit cards. Immediately.

    We don’t require that you vote for conservative, fiscally-responsible proposals, or that you even like them, but you WILL be present as the wheels of democracy roll on or you WILL be replaced.

  7. #107
    On February 18th, 2011 at 4:26 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 18th, 2011 at 3:56 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Please link to your source. I’d like to read it for myself. Thank you.

  8. #108
    On February 18th, 2011 at 4:38 pm, Gorebot said:

    If Governor Walker has the fortitude to keep a strong grip on his copy of Reagan’s “Air Traffic Controller” playbook, it will be interesting to see how many of these diaper-soiling crybabies will sheepishly be applying at private schools 6 months from now.

    For new jobs — and at a lower salary — of course, and all because they destroyed the Easy-Street/Fat-Cat/Gravy-Train positions they used to have.

    “Dang, two plus two really do equal four!”

    Before one can teach, one has to learn.

  9. #109
    On February 18th, 2011 at 4:46 pm, Mister P said:

    One criteria for GOP presidential candidate: Promise to create an executive order undoing the executive order of JFK allowing government unions. Cut them off at the knees.

  10. #110
    On February 18th, 2011 at 4:47 pm, flmom said:

    A great quote from Speaker Boehner:

    “The President of the United States has a unique opportunity and responsibility to lead this nation. President Obama has acknowledged the challenges we face, but – thus far – he has done nothing to offer solutions. Now, worse, his political organization is colluding with special-interest allies across the country to demagogue reform-minded governors who are making the tough choices that the President is avoiding.

    “This is not the way to begin an ‘adult conversation’ about solutions to the big challenges facing our country. Rather than inciting protests against those who speak honestly about the challenges we face, the President and his advisers should lead.

    “When the American people watched the people of Greece take to the streets to protest cuts to unsustainable government programs, they worried it might foreshadow events in our nation’s distant future – but today, we see the same sort of protests on the streets of Madison, fueled by President Obama’s own political machine.

    “Rather than trying to ‘win the future,’ the President’s political allies are trying, desperately, to cling to a failed past by fighting reforms our nation needs to liberate our economy from the shackles of debt and create a better future for our children and grandchildren. The President should make it clear to his friends that the people of Wisconsin, and states across America, can handle their own affairs without Washington special-interest money and meddling.

  11. #111
    On February 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm, sbw999 said:

    Well done Michelle. This bodes well for 2012. Break the unions, stop the insane spending, the taxing, the borrowing, take back this Country from the morons ruining it. It is time to usher in the death of liberalism. Our Marxist Prez and his communist/Leninist/Stalinist,Maoist/Marxist cronies all have to go. I want my Country back.

  12. #112
    On February 18th, 2011 at 5:17 pm, fred5676 said:

    AFL-CIO and Service Employees International Union bosses dubbed Walker the “Mubarak of the Midwest”

    The rest of the all-star cast (courtesy of IMDB):

    AmmaDinnerJacket – Barack Obama

    Ayatolla Khomeni – Richard Trumpka

    Yusuf al-Qaradawi – Al Sharpton (unless we can coax Rev. Wright out of retirement!)

    while their minions toted posters of Walker’s face superimposed on Hitler’s.

    Ahhh – love that new civility!

  13. #113
    On February 18th, 2011 at 5:48 pm, swede said:

    flmom said:
    A great quote from Speaker Boehner:

    “This is not the way to begin an ‘adult conversation’ about solutions to the big challenges facing our country. Rather than inciting protests against those who speak honestly about the challenges we face, the President and his advisers should lead.

    Youch! That’s gonna leave a mark. Nice volley. Advantage Boehner.

  14. #114
    On February 18th, 2011 at 5:56 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    spw999 said>> This bodes well for 2012. Break the unions…

    I am huge on this break-the-unions thingie. I used to fret about unions quite a bit back in the day when the blue-collar thugs in Detroit were having fun sabotaging cars and laying out on Mondays and Fridays while getting fatter and fatter contracts every year. We’re talking here of the 1970s. And those thugs were earning more money than the overwhelming majority of the American citizens who had no options but to buy their garbage and subsidize them.

    Then along came Japan! The unions started losing ground, and I pretty much forgot about them. Sure, the teachers’ unions were always a problem, because they were such a force against improvement in public education. But other than that, I didn’t think much about the unions.

    Lately, though, it is a new ballgame with so many public employees unionized and the unions so brazenly in bed with the Democrat Party. It is a little bit of an irony that such a great, unfair advantage for the Dems is also a great vulnerability for them. Break the unions and we break the Democrat Party. Deservedly so…it is as crooked as it can possibly be, as is seen in the president’s politically motivated wading into this thing in Wisconsin.

    Absolutely! Break the unions! I am unashamed to be unabashedly anti-union. The country is being raped by the unions who have brought states and cities to the brink of bankruptcy.

    Now is our moment! Smash their kneecaps! Crush these goons! And let’s end the grip of the Leftist educrats along with them. Return power in education to the people and the parents through a complete voucher system!

  15. #115
    On February 18th, 2011 at 6:32 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    You said another mouthful Reilly! :)

  16. #116
    On February 18th, 2011 at 6:59 pm, sbw999 said:

    On February 18th, 2011 at 5:56 pm, Ignatius Reilly said:

    spw999 said>> This bodes well for 2012. Break the unions…

    I am huge on this break-the-unions thingie. I used to fret about unions quite a bit back in the day when the blue-collar thugs in Detroit were having fun sabotaging cars and laying out on Mondays and Fridays while getting fatter and fatter contracts every year. We’re talking here of the 1970s. And those thugs were earning more money than the overwhelming majority of the American citizens who had no options but to buy their garbage and subsidize them.

    Then along came Japan! The unions started losing ground, and I pretty much forgot about them. Sure, the teachers’ unions were always a problem, because they were such a force against improvement in public education. But other than that, I didn’t think much about the unions.

    Lately, though, it is a new ballgame with so many public employees unionized and the unions so brazenly in bed with the Democrat Party. It is a little bit of an irony that such a great, unfair advantage for the Dems is also a great vulnerability for them. Break the unions and we break the Democrat Party. Deservedly so…it is as crooked as it can possibly be, as is seen in the president’s politically motivated wading into this thing in Wisconsin.

    Absolutely! Break the unions! I am unashamed to be unabashedly anti-union. The country is being raped by the unions who have brought states and cities to the brink of bankruptcy.

    Now is our moment! Smash their kneecaps! Crush these goons! And let’s end the grip of the Leftist educrats along with them. Return power in education to the people and the parents through a complete voucher system!

    Amen brother. Break the unions and you break the dem party indeed!!

  17. #117
    On February 18th, 2011 at 7:33 pm, CleanGuy said:

    Are there any stories of teachers who are teaching despite the strike, whether in a school or someplace offsite like their own homes or a home of one of their students?

  18. #118
    On February 18th, 2011 at 7:36 pm, dadinseattle said:

    Staving Off the Entitlement Flu
    Every state should introduce similar legislation and make the Dems and their benefactors defend their position of getting more than everyone else without paying for any of it.

  19. #119
    On February 18th, 2011 at 8:11 pm, Mister P said:

    Watching the Dems defend unions is humorous. They go back 100 years and of course deny that there is no distinction between unions and the Democratic Party. Gutierrez playing the class warfare pitch, and talks about all of us “sharing”. Well I thing that is exactly the issue.

  20. #120
    On February 18th, 2011 at 8:24 pm, Azygos said:

    Anybody have a link showing how much these spoiled children make?

  21. #121
    On February 18th, 2011 at 8:46 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Anybody have a link showing how much these spoiled children make?

    Here you go.

  22. #122
    On February 18th, 2011 at 8:48 pm, EdDantes said:

    When Obama revealed his budget for 2012 he said “Everybody’s going to have to give a bit…”

    He should have finished the statement with “…unless they are in a union.”

  23. #123
    On February 18th, 2011 at 9:35 pm, rambler said:

    In the real world, when an employee wants to get a raise, that employee performs that job the best way possible to prove added worth to the company. When a union wants something, there is a strike or some other bullying/ intimidation tactics used to get additional money and perks. Nothing of real value is added. Unions have been demanding “protection money” for so long there is little left to take. There is no way to have a tax increase solve the deficit problem in this climate. At this point there is no lunch money for the bully to steal. Teachers have tarnished any sort of professionalism they had by colluding with union thugs. Why would anyone on their right mind want to leave their children with any teacher who was demonstrating in Wisconsin or anywhere else? Not only are parents not getting their moneys’ worth for their children, a public education may be doing a lot of harm. Now I have a clearer picture of why our public education system has not improved at all over the decades.

  24. #124
    On February 18th, 2011 at 9:59 pm, txvet2 said:

    After they get through breaking the public employee unions, they should start on the postal unions and the PO might survive few more years.

  25. #125
    On February 18th, 2011 at 10:05 pm, thefoundingfathers said:

    A little off topic but a parallel here. While the public sector unions are trying to screw the taxpayer in the private sector. The private sector is trying to screw the American citizen trying to find a job. Posting fake want ads to allow for H1B Visas and green cards for foreign worker to enter the USA.

    And we wonder why the USA Employment picture is sagging.

    http://networkedblogs.com/eqec1

  26. #126
    On February 18th, 2011 at 10:35 pm, infidel4life said:

    Communism didn’t need to rain down nuclear warheads on us or invade us militarily. All they needed to do was infiltrate the unions and the democrat party. Capitalism vs. Communism right here on our own turf.

  27. #127
    On February 18th, 2011 at 10:41 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    On February 18th, 2011 at 10:35 pm, infidel4life said:
    Communism didn’t need to rain down nuclear warheads on us or invade us militarily. All they needed to do was infiltrate the unions and the democrat party. Capitalism vs. Communism right here on our own turf.

    Right out of the 1963 Communist Goals as read into the Congressional Record. Amazing how successful they’ve been and how few people are even aware of it.

  28. #128
    On February 18th, 2011 at 10:55 pm, docjohn52 said:

    Sign an arrest warrant, and offer a reward. Send the the bail agents after them, across state lines, kicking in doors.
    I’d pay good money to see Dog chasing one of them.

    Cowards.

  29. #129
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:16 am, Republicanvet said:

    I just got back home from Madison after going to the Badger hockey game. I drove through the area at 5pm and could see the capitol…and it seemed like any other day.

    I get the impression the media is hyping how big the crowds are now.

    Anyway, in driving back after the game, I once again felt ripped off as a taxpayer when I saw at least three school buses lined up on a side street to the capitol.

    Nice to see the schools use my taxes so wisely.

  30. #130
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:29 am, bedje said:

    Republicanvet, I am happy to say this time your tax dollars were being used wisely. Ray Nagin had those buses in the bull pin ready for the next Katrina.

  31. #131
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:41 am, Republicanvet said:

    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:29 am, bedje said:

    Republicanvet, I am happy to say this time your tax dollars were being used wisely. Ray Nagin had those buses in the bull pin ready for the next Katrina.

    No doubt.

    Luckily those who decide who is acting civil are acting so civil themselves.

  32. #132
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:47 am, reshas1 said:

    Does anyone know how to find home addresses?? WEAC is publishing home addresses of Rep. Wisc. legislators….

    http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2011/02/18/weac-publishes-home-addresses-of-wisconsin-legislators/

    http://www.weac.org/About_WEAC/board_leadership/bell.aspx

  33. #133
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:52 am, bedje said:

    Civility only works one way. When Republicans say, No, Mr. President, they are uncivil (a.k.a racists). When dems (a.k.a unions) draw a Hitler moustache over Gov. Walker’s picture, that’s ok and even encouraged.

  34. #134
    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:01 am, bedje said:

    reshas1, not sure, but if you could find out where her office is located, she “ain’t” far from it. Sorry about the grammar. It must have been a union teacher that taught me.

  35. #136
    On February 19th, 2011 at 7:25 am, babbledabble said:

    What are the “tax breaks for his rich friends” that Walker supposedly gave that the union is now saying is the cause of the deficit?

  36. #138
    On February 19th, 2011 at 8:18 am, kilroyshere said:

    Oh the sweet irony.

    Reid, Pelosi, Obama et al have been warning the Republicans controlling our House of Representatives, will shut the government down over the budget trying to scare the public and harming America.

    The same Dems are applauding the WI Senate…for shutting down that States Government.

    Cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy are a wholly owned franchise by the Dems.

    If the the teachers union is broken in this modern WI battle for ‘Little Big Horn’ so goes the rest of America for the Dem’s in ‘12.

    ___‹^›__‹(•¿•)›__‹^›___

  37. #139
    On February 19th, 2011 at 9:35 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    I see that Governor Walker has received several hundreds of thousands of e-mails of support.

    But then there is an e-mail campaign to re-call him so the battle is joined.

  38. #141
    On February 19th, 2011 at 9:42 am, plymouthacclaim said:

    We had our own chickencrat infestation in Texas a while back. Sad to see they’ve spread to Wisconsin.

    Arrest the chickencrats!

  39. #142
    On February 19th, 2011 at 9:54 am, stillontheroad said:

    Piglosi, The Sock Puppet and their minions are jumping up and down and clapping their hands that pure thuggery has stopped the process of Government in Wisconsin – but when the shoe goes on the other foot and that clown show called Washington is shut down because of Demoncrap antics – what then?

  40. #143
    On February 19th, 2011 at 9:55 am, happyscrapper said:

    On February 18th, 2011 at 10:41 pm, Virginia Patriot said:
    Right out of the 1963 Communist Goals as read into the Congressional Record. Amazing how successful they’ve been and how few people are even aware of it.

    This is not surprising, considering that the last 2 generations have not even been taught that we are a nation of laws based on the Constitution. How can you even communicate with people that ignorant? They won’t get it no matter what you say. Instead of being the framework of our country and what keeps it fair, just, civil and in control, the Consitution is some old moldy piece of paper with no meaning to them. This was so freakin’ predictable!! Our teachers have not taught the basic, vital history of this amazing Republic for a very long time and chaos is the result. We have a long road ahead to change this, if we even can. The people in charge of our country don’t even understand the meaning of State’s Rights!!! This is truly frightening.

  41. #144
    On February 19th, 2011 at 10:43 am, Pat said:

    In the documentary Waiting for Superman, one of the kids is seen learning this lesson: native Americans took care of the land, and the white people who came destroyed it.

    This is what they are learning: how to hate their country.

    Math and English? Forget it.

  42. #145
    On February 19th, 2011 at 10:43 am, Pasadena Phil said:

    Like I said before, Walker should declare that since the teachers are determined to stay on strike during school hours for as long as it takes, the schools are closed for the rest of the year and no one will get paid. No education is going on so the kids might as well stay home. This is not a negotiation. The government just doesn’t have the money anymore and reform is going to happen.

    This takes an advantage away from the unions because it is no longer a strike. They are fired. It turns them into unemployed protestors who are now going to deplete the resources of the unions. Make it expensive for the unions.

    As these “strikes” spread to other states, this will serve as a disincentive to those government employees and drain the unions. Obama (or whatever Democrat replaces him) is expecting to need over a billion dollars in 2012 and much of it from unions. This will be a major handicap for the Dems if the unions don’t have the money to give them.

  43. #146
    On February 19th, 2011 at 11:11 am, Virginia Patriot said:

    Great idea, Phil. Bleeding the unions this year will weaken them next year.
    Now if we can only get a non-amnesty/globalist nominee….

  44. #147
    On February 19th, 2011 at 11:18 am, jrgdds said:

    The graduation rate in Milwaukee public schools is an abysmal 46 percent. The graduation rate for African-Americans in Milwaukee public schools is an even more abysmal 34 percent.

    Shouldn’t somebody be protesting that?

  45. #149
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:06 pm, Mister P said:

    When I graduated from my Chicago high school, 63 percent of students had dropped out. Inner city schools have been a disaster for decades, and Democrats have controlled the politics of the cities and have kept these cities in poverty and the inner cities no better than 3rd world nations.

  46. #150
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:10 pm, Mister P said:

    A key concept in the Art of War is to pick you battles. I think Walker did a great job picking this battle for all of us. Now the Dems are stuck as the only supporter of the teachers unions. The unions violate the law and lose all public support. This is a union and democratic loser and will push the tide back against them, and the other battles will get easier for us. States will roll back unions and collective bargaining and closed shops. The time of unions is over.

  47. #151
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:11 pm, Mister P said:

    Great idea, Phil. Bleeding the unions this year will weaken them next year.
    Now if we can only get a non-amnesty/globalist nominee….

    Do you mean non-globalist?

  48. #152
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:18 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    yes

  49. #153
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:20 pm, Bogtrotter said:

    If the WI situation with public employees spreads to other states, they will see what support they have diminish very rapidly. And Obama is doing himself no long term favor by siding with them. Both he and the union members are too arrogant to see what is coming.

  50. #154
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:23 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 19th, 2011 at 11:11 am, Virginia Patriot said:
    Great idea, Phil. Bleeding the unions this year will weaken them next year.
    Now if we can only get a non-amnesty/globalist nominee….

    I’m sure you all realize this, but fighting the unions is very very dangerous. They fight dirty, corrupt and violent. These are not nice people. The Tea Party has little chance against them, if you ask me. Tea Partiers are your average, nice people who just want a clean, small government. How can they possibly fight against union thugs without getting hurt…badly? I fear that innocent lives will be lost over this.

  51. #155
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:32 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Joe the Plummmer, Tim Kain, Andrew Breitbart, Brad Thor…showing up with the Tea Party today at the WI capital for a rally in support of Gov. Walker!! They are expecting a large crowd. Wow! This gives me goose bumps! Patriotism in action. Yes!!

  52. #156
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Madison officials are now suing for a court order to force the teachers back to school. Is this a preliminary step to set up mass firings? There is no point wasting everyone’s time keeping the schools open and paying teachers and administrators if there is no education going on. These “sick ins” are actually illegal strikes.

  53. #157
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:35 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:23 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I’m sure you all realize this, but fighting the unions is very very dangerous. They fight dirty, corrupt and violent.

    That’s why God invented cast iron skillets.

  54. #158
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:39 pm, YTZGal said:

    Once you understand the genesis of mandatory education, (start with John Taylor Gatto’s “Weapons of Mass Instruction” or “Underground History of Education”, and Charlotte Thomsen Iserbyt’s “Deliberate Dumbing Down of America” for starters — and then keep doing your own research), it becomes very difficult to rationalize continuing to support it.

    Mandatory education has nothing to do with “education” — literacy rates have significantly decreased since mandatory education was implemented — which it was designed to do.

    When mandatory education was crammed down the throats of parents, aided and abetted by grant money and “think tanks” funded by Carnegie, Rockefeller et al — the protests AGAINST it were higher than what we saw against Obamacare. And it relies solely on coercion and asset confiscation to keep the whole thing going.

    If parents and taxpayers are truly serious about “change”, then they will use this opportunity to withdraw their children en masse from the public system, and either patronize lower cost, more efficient private schools, or homeschool. It’s a matter of principal.

    Please tell me it’s “not workable”.

    I no longer support public schools, nor the taxes they confiscate to keep the scam running. It would be hard to justify keep the system running if there are no “customers” for their failed product.

    There are a great many alternatives to providing a quality education to all children. The public school system isn’t it.

    Change is hard, a certain occupant of the White House once opined. Are American parents really up for true “change”?

    I doubt it.

  55. #159
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:40 pm, YTZGal said:

    Sorry.
    Please DON’T tell me it’s not workable.
    Excuse the typo.

  56. #160
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:41 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Happyscrapper: it’s also important to remember that we vastly outnumber them. The real risk that these Tea Party people are taking is that they will be blamed for any violence no matter what the facts.

    The same Sharia law that blames women rape victims for being raped applies to conservatives being assaulted. Bizzaro world

  57. #161
    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm, happyscrapper said:

    That’s why God invented cast iron skillets.

    If the union comes to MN, I will be there!! Probably won’t bring my skillet because I might get arrested for carrying a weapon! And you are right…if there is violence, the Tea Party will be blamed. How they can get away with such deceitful reporting is beyond me. I assume the Tea Partiers have learned by now to bring lots of video cameras and phones to document what happens!

  58. #162
    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:15 pm, Truesoldier said:

    On February 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm, Pasadena Phil said:
    Madison officials are now suing for a court order to force the teachers back to school.

    THe judge in the case, Circuit Court Judge Maryann Sumi, has denied the injuction to force teachers back to work. I wonder if she is an elected or appointed judge?

  59. #163
    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm, Azygos said:

    Thanks EQ

    Happy

    Nothing on the books says you can’t staple your protest sign to a baseball bat :D

  60. #164
    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:28 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm, Azygos said:

    Happy

    Nothing on the books says you can’t staple your protest sign to a baseball bat

    Cute! I am reserving my skillet and my baseball bat for home protection. Don’t want to start the next civil war!!

  61. #165
    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:39 pm, txvet2 said:

    On February 19th, 2011 at 11:18 am, jrgdds said:

    The graduation rate in Milwaukee public schools is an abysmal 46 percent. The graduation rate for African-Americans in Milwaukee public schools is an even more abysmal 34 percent.

    Which is as good an argument as any to just close down the school system and stop paying the teachers.

  62. #167
    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:15 pm, Truesoldier said:

    THe judge in the case, Circuit Court Judge Maryann Sumi, has denied the injuction to force teachers back to work. I wonder if she is an elected or appointed judge?

    I’m hoping one of our readers is versed in the law applying to this. It would seem to me that the governor could issue and emergency executive order giving the teachers a firm deadline after which they would be fired. Or maybe he could just fire them. After all, we are talking about Madison, not the entire stste.

    I maintain that public sector unions themselves are unconstitutional. Allowing them to unionize against other taxpayers creates a separate class of taxpayers to the disadvantage of the rest. It’s such a blatantly destructive relationship for elected officials to be dependent on political contributions from these unions.

    Just fire them.

  63. #168
    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm, Azygos said:

    I guess I should make it clear I DO NOT advocate violence. The only reason I would use a baseball bat is to defend myself and I would encourage others to do the same. We are not union thugs.

    (Sorry Michelle I think I may have inadvertently crossed you terms of use) Violence is not the answer and we on the right must remain peaceful, though it is acceptable to protect yourself when attacked.

  64. #169
    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Walker should also warn the firefighters and police whose signs I see at these protests that he will reconsider exempting them from this move if they don’t back off. I don’t know why they are exempted in the first place. There is more abuse going on with police and fire benefits than anywhere else.

  65. #170
    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm, Pasadena Phil said:

    Okay Azygos, you started for it.

    Get him! Don’t let him get away! We have rules around here!

  66. #171
    On February 19th, 2011 at 2:26 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I maintain that public sector unions themselves are unconstitutional. Allowing them to unionize against other taxpayers creates a separate class of taxpayers to the disadvantage of the rest. It’s such a blatantly destructive relationship for elected officials to be dependent on political contributions from these unions.

    Good point, Phil!

  67. #172
    On February 19th, 2011 at 2:28 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On February 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm, Azygos said:

    Yes, you are in a lot of trouble. I might have to report you. Telling me to post a sign on a bat! Bad dog. Bad. :wink:

  68. #173
    On February 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Live counterprotest coverage at BreitbartTV and here.

  69. #174
    On February 19th, 2011 at 2:42 pm, Truesoldier said:

    I maintain that public sector unions themselves are unconstitutional. Allowing them to unionize against other taxpayers creates a separate class of taxpayers to the disadvantage of the rest. It’s such a blatantly destructive relationship for elected officials to be dependent on political contributions from these unions.

    The only purpose of public sector unions is to provide a funds for the union leadership in return for a guaranteed voting block.

  70. #175
    On February 19th, 2011 at 2:45 pm, CO2 Producer said:
  71. #176
    On February 19th, 2011 at 2:45 pm, rambler said:

    Chicago style thuggery at work here. Maybe if the teachers didn’t have the protection on the unions, the public schools would be better off. Competition keeps the bar being raised. When teachers don’t know the material they are teaching, how are students going to excel? Why should students waste their time in a class room. I know smart kids who left school, got their GED and started taking college courses because they couldn’t stomach public schools. The unions have made public schools unaccountable to the voters. I’m tired of schools threatening voters with cuts in education if property taxes weren’t raised. Lousy books, uninspiring lessons and defensive teachers don’t make for a successful record. So let them whine and protest themselves into irrelevance.

  72. #177
    On February 19th, 2011 at 3:34 pm, Virginia Patriot said:

    I thought this fit this discussion

    #20On February 19th, 2011 at 11:40 am, Roland said:
    Ah. This must be it. I suspect if Democrats knew this, FDR would get 0% from them.

    Letter from FDR Regarding Collective Bargaining of Public Unions written August 16, 1937:

    “All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management.

    The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations.

    Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of Government employees.

    A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable.”

  73. #180
    On February 21st, 2011 at 2:01 pm, JoeKelly said:

    As a conservative member of the Left Coast Republica of California, I watched the decimation of a union years ago. The Printers union. Arguably the odest union (in whatever form) on the face of this planet.

    What I learned in my 29 years of working in the printing trade was this: There are a few evil employers out there who need a union to keep in line; they seemed to always have something up their sleeves.

    But I didn’t suffer them much. I tired early on in my career of the lazy, low IQ worker who had seniority and more say in how to screw over the people who would make me unemployed when it all become too much.

    This thinking led me to fire my employer and seek work elsewhere. I have never worked for a union shop because I am smarter than that. Why have someone argue (and that is what it really is, and argument) for you what you can do yourself? I would rather deal with the people I see everyday on my own than hire someone to do it for me. They are not in the trenches, I am.

    The sad thing is it took me 22 years to see that there are some places that really do meed someone to come down like a ton of bricks on evil employers. People who are evil have lots of dirt on them and skeletons in their closets. It’s pretty easy to find. e.g.; legal fodder. Those shops dont get very big out here. No one will work for them.

    Bottom line is I am better than any union #@$%^ out there. That is why I can find work when I want. I excercise my right to go elsewhere if I dont like it.

    Also as a sidebar: The sorriest place I ever worked was one of those places that may have needed a union – it had evil leaders/owners. It was a sorry shop because the workers had not the slightest indication of a backbone. The employers kept them at each others throats continually all the while convincing them how much they were doing for their ‘workers’. They also deserved a Union. Get it?

    Lazy employees get evil employers.

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